Creatie vs Evolutie part 2

[Kristi]

Tu il poti observa, demonstra si dovedi pe dumnezeul tau ? Nu. De ce este dumnezeul tau mai bun decat Allah, Thor, Horus etc? Pentru ca asa ai fost crescut de mic si indoctrinat sa crezi.

N-am timp sa traduc... dar banuiesc ca stii engleza...

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Hinduism

Hindus believe that "all is one,' and that Brahman (God) is everything. Since it does not appear that way to us, they say that Brahman is beyond our experience and rationality, and all that we experience is illusion (maya).

Hindus claim that the only way to get right with 'the all' is through mystical contemplation such as yoga, and meditation, so that we can be enlightened to the truth that we are one with the sky, the trees, the lake etc. Hindus claim that the problems with this world stem from our belief in distinctions rather than the oneness of being and that once enlightened, we will escape the cycle of reincarnation, and enter into 'Nirvana' as a drop of water into a shoreless ocean.

Q: If as you claim God is not personal, is your holy book, the bhagavad gita, a personal revelation from God, and, if not, why should anyone believe it?

Q: If any distinctions between you and a truck are illusory, why do you look both ways before you cross the street?

Q: If all is one, and there are no distinctions, am I not in Nirvana already?

MORALISTIC WORLDVIEWS

Moralistic worldviews do not have a transcendent authority which to appeal to. In moralistic worldviews 'God' and 'Heaven' are usually lumped together and range in description from an abstract void to an impersonal principle (Nirvana in Buddhism and T'ien in Confucianism). Most moralistic worldviews claim that the problem with humanity is that we fail to live up to a particular moral code and that we need to try harder to live up to that code to attain some form of 'enlightenment.'

Q: Where did the universe come from?

Q: If I was unable to live up to this code in the past, how will I be able to 'try harder' now?

Q: If I have broken this moral code in the past, how is the guilt of my past deeds dealt with?

Buddhism

Q: What gives Buddha, or your holy books authority?

Q: How do I know that Buddha is the enlightened one, rather than Confucius?

Q: If anyone can get to 'heaven' by just being good, who determines what 'being good' is?

Confucianism

Q: What gives Confucius or your 'holy' books authority?

Q: How do I know that Confucius is the enlightened one rather than Buddha?

Q: By what authority do you claim that Confucius was wise and what determines what wisdom is?

CHRISTIAN COUNTERFEITS

Christian Counterfeit worldviews regard some or all of the Bible as authoritative but then through claimed 'additional revelations,' reject the most basic teachings of the Bible. Some are polytheistic (believe in many Gods - as the Mormons do), Unitarian (rejecting the trinity as most Christian counterfeits do - including Islam), and some have perversions of a false Messiah.

Mormonism

Q: What is the manuscript evidence for the multitude of discrepancies between the Mormon bible (which teaches for instance that Satan offered to redeem mankind, that Adam was baptized by immersion, and that a prophet named Joseph Smith would appear), and the Christian Bible.

Q: What is your answer to the teaching in Revelation 22 vs. 18 that anyone who adds or takes away from the Bible will be dealt with plagues and banishment?

Q: How do we know that the Mormon version of the Bible is true?

Q: What is the evidence that the original language of the Book of Mormon "reformed Egyptian," ever existed?

Q: Would a true prophet of God have been convicted of 'glass looking,' (a con of placing a 'magic stone' in a hat, placing one's face in the hat, and by that means locating hidden treasures), in Bainbridge New York, on March 20, 1826, as Joseph Smith was?

Jehovah's Witness

Q: Does your organization claim to be a prophet of God?

Q: Since Deuteronomy 18 vs. 20 -22 describe a false prophet as one who gives a prophecy which does not come true, how do you answer the prophecies of the Jehovah's Witness of the end of the world in 1914, and the bodily return of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, in 1925?

Q: What is the manuscript evidence for the discrepancies between the Jehovah's Witness' 'New World Translation' Bible and the Bible of Christianity?

Islam

Q: Since the Koran (Qur'an) acknowledged the words of Abrahm, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Jesus and His apostles as authoritative (Surah 2:136, 17:55), how do you account for the conflicts between the Bible and the Koran such as the Koran's claim that Jesus was not crucified? (Surah 4:157)

Q: Since the Koran was written around 600 AD, a time when current manuscripts of the Christian Bible were available, what is the evidence that the Christian Bible has been corrupted SINCE then?

Q: SInce the Koran claims that the words of Allah cannot be changed (Surah 6:34, 6:115), how do you support your position that the previous words of Allah in the 'Book' (the Bible) have been changed?

Q: If Islam claims to be a peaceful religion, how do you account for the verses in the Koran such as this one from Surah 9:5 "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

Q: How do you account for the claim in the Koran that Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron since they lived hundreds of years apart? (Surah 19 27-28)

Q: Do you believe, as stated in the Hadith book of Sahîh al-Bukhârî Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543 that Adam was 60 cubits (90 feet) tall?

Source: [url="http://www.proofthatgodexists.org"]ProofThatGodExists.org[/url]

Credinciosii nu fac altceva decat sa isi actualizeze divinitatea si sa o adapteze perioadei in care traiesc.

Parca inainte spuneai ca crestinismul ramane acelasi, nu se schimba...

Anyway ... eu mi-am luat patina de aici. Cand ai zis ca il crezi pe Kent Hovind m-am lamurit.

Have a nice life.

Firstly, Kent Hovind e considerat patetic de evolutionisti pentru ca are dreptate, pentru ca dovedeste oamenilor ca (,) creationismul e adevarat si ca teoria evolutie este o minciuna. Nu iti place de el pentru ca e creatiusnit. Daca ar depune atat de mult efort lucrand pentru evolutie ar fi considerat de tine unul dintre cei mai desptepti oameni care au trait vreodata pe pamant.

Si, da-mi voie sa iti spun si sa le spun celor care citesc acest topic: Tu de fapt pleci (sau cel putin spui asta) pentru ca realizezi incapacitatea teoriei tale de a dovedi existenta vietii si complexitatea imensa a lucrurilor din jur. Si ca sa nu aiba si altii impresia asta, spui ca faptul ca il cred pe Kent Hovind ( puteti vedea seminare sau dezbateri impotriva evolutionistilor sau a evolutionistilor teisti de-ale lui Kent Hovind pe drdino.com sau pe youtube/google videos ) te-a determinat sa pleci. De la tine ma asteptam cel putin la o scuza mai buna, dar in fine...

edit : Nu mai incerca cu atata disperare sa ii convingi pe altii de adevarul tau.

Inca cateva greseli:
- nu incerc cu disperare, faptul ca le arat lucrurile asa cum sunt nu inseamna ca o fac din disperare. Daca nu stiai, momentan sunt foarte calm Stii, as putea sa fac si altceva decat sa imi pierd vremea pe forum demonstrand altora minciuna evolutiei, dar eu stiu cine e in spatele teoriei evolutiei si nu am de gand sa stau degeaba.